first i want to set some ground rules, this is a discussion on the potency of the 25 acp round, and with hand loading, what it can be. Its not a caliber war and we are not discussing the 45s one stop shot ability or any other caliber for that matter, so please refrain form mentioning it.

Second, lets all be adults, and act accordingly

Third, lets all refrain from cursing, this includes me.

Thats it, lets talk about the 25 acp, I just love this round, and the guns that shoot it.